Was Ellis Williams, who died in the Marine Colliery Disaster, of 75 Marine Street CWM my Grandfather if so Mae would have been his wife, Isaac Raymond (son), Evan (sons) and there was another son possibly Harry and two daughters possibly Gwyneth and or Glenys.
Hello
I wonder if you could help me but I only have the briefest of information to give you.
My father, Isaac Raymond Williams, who died when I was young, he was a miner in Ramsgate, Kent.
His family moved there when he was young. He was born in 1925 and I know his own father died down the mines when he was young.
Marine Street, CWM is about 19 miles from Newport
My father was born in Newport, Gwent, South Wales and I’ve been recently researching people who died down the mines around the time my dad was little and the nearest I’ve come to is an Ellis Williams, aged 50, who died of burns and fractures in the 1927 Marine Colliery, CWM, mining disaster.
I’ve looked on Google maps to see if this mine was near Newport and it seems to be quite close as I doubt there were mines right in the town of Newport.
Ellis Williams, as I’ve read, lived at 75, Marine Street CWM. Would this be classed as Newport?
What I’m actually trying to find out is what family (if any) this man left behind. My widowed grandmother’s name was Mae and apart from my dad I know there were other children in the family but the only other name I know was my uncle Evan.
So if you or anyone else knows the family names of the late Ellis Williams and they tag with mine I would be very interested as he could’ve been my granddad.
Thank you so much.
Valerie Smeeton (nee Williams)
Issac probably worked at the Chislet Colliery, Ramsgate. Many Chislet miners were Welsh as Welsh colliery companies held shares in the Chislet Company and developed a close working relationship. Until 1924 the majority of the miners lived in Ramsgate. That year the Chislet Colliery Housing Society was formed to build a small colliery village of 300 houses at Chislet. This was later renamed Hersden to distinguish it from the original village of Chislet up the road. (See Coalfields Heritage Initiative Kent)
I have recently read about this colliery and it is most likely my dad, Isaac, did work at Chislet but he didn't die in a mine, he sadly had a fall down a flight of stairs resulting in him being paralysed from the neck down then died of complications in 1967 but not mine-related. It was his own father, Ellis, who died in a mine in Wales when my dad was very little. The fact that my dad was born in Newport, Gwent in 1925, two years before Ellis Williams died had me wondering if this man could possibly have been my dad's dad (my late granddad). The only way I'd find this out would be to see if my nan's, dad's and his siblings Christian names match up with any of Ellis Williams' family's Christian names, these names are: Mae (widow), Isaac Raymond (son), Evan (sons) and there was another son possibly Harry and two daughters possibly Gwyneth and or Glenys.
Ellis Williams died aged 50 yrs on 1st March 1927. He was a Fireman at the Marine Colliery, Cwm (About 19 miles from Newport) owned by Ebbw Vale Steel, Iron and Coal Co Ltd. Monmouth. If someone said they came from Newport, Gwent could it possibly mean they lived in one of the valleys but referred to their home town as the nearest biggest town? My late mum was a Londoner so when she met my dad in 1949 I guess it's possible he told her he came from Newport, Gwent in case she'd never heard of any of the smaller valley villages; would this have been the norm I wonder? If this was so then it is possible for my dad to have been born and spent the first few years in Cwm rather than in Newport itself, or maybe I'm clutching at straws! Maybe obtaining a copy of his birth certificate would satisfy my many questions!
Notes: An explosion of firedamp propagated by coal dust caused either by safty lamp or of stone falling on stones. 52 killed. Ellis had severe burns to the upper body and fractured arms legs and skull. |
