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David Worth Is The Bentinct Colliery's preserved winding engine still in existence?

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From: David Worth
Sent: 07 February 2005
Is The Bentinct Colliery's preserved winding engine is still in existence?

I am helping coordinate the Newcomen Society Summer meeting based in Nottingham - July 2005. Could you let me know if the Bentinct Colliery's preserved winding engine is still in existence and if so, can a visit the made by a small group.

Any help would be very much appreciated, thanks

David Worth
The Newcomen Society
The Science Museum
London SW7 2DD
Tel/Fax: +044 (0)20-7371-4445


From: John New
Sent: 14 February 2005
Subject: RE: Bentinck Colliery's winding engine

Not doing too badly. I have failed on the Bentinck Engine and the only reference to anything preserved is your site’s reference to the sale of the wheels. Presumably to the Apedale Heritage Centre there. Their website is actually pretty naff. Too little information on what they have got in their collection to make you think “I want to see that” and go on a visit.

However I think the preserved engine they probably mean is the surviving one at Bestwood. Various references found on websites of that engine. That one is to the Council information so probably a good place to start.

Newcomen Society have a mini-Conference in Nottingham in July so it ties in with the request for information on visiting. Hope this helps.

John New

Webmaster for Stephenson Locomotive Society
York Model Rly Show Website

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From: Joseph Henshaw
Sent: 14 February 2005
Re: Bentinck Colliery's Winding Engine

Over the last couple of years, the Bentinck site has been completely cleared of buildings dating from the time when shaft-winding took place (plus nearly all others), and redevelopment is underway.

I have no knowledge of a preserved winding engine, and I do not think there remains anything that would house such an item item. As you may know, the Annesley Bentinck Concentration Scheme (1980s) led to all coal being brought to the surface via a new drift at Bentinck, with men and materials using the Annesley shafts. I belive that the Bentinck drift is now part of a coal-bed methane extraction operation. With the unparalleled ability to consign our heritage to the dustbin in this area, I doubt even a "preserved" winding engine survives, but I will make further enquiries - this may take a few days.



From: Gary Henshaw
Sent: 14 February 2005
Re: Bentinck Colliery's Winding Engine


Is there any confusion here with BESTWOOD Colliery’s winding engine? This received a grant from the Science Museum several years ago for a (partial?) restoration. However the winding house is now on NCC’s ‘At Risk’ register, and the future of the building is under discussion.I understand that the person who may be able to shed more light on the matter is Jason Morden of Notts CC Tel 0115 977 2159: he is on leave until this Thursday.

If it really IS Bentinck they are talking about, then I’m afraid I’m not up to speed with the situation there. I last visited the site in spring 2000, when virtually all of the surface buildings were still standing, but a plan to redevelop the site was in the offing.


Buildings At Risk!

Our five-year review of the condition of the County’s listed buildings is finally complete. The team’s historic buildings staff are now in the process of creating the final report and are compiling a register of ‘at risk’ properties. We intend to publish the register - both in paper form and on the internet - by the end of June this year. The online register will be fully accessible to the public.

For more information on the project, or to be placed on the mailing list for the register, please contact, e-mail:

Bestwood Winding Engine has been out of use for over thirty years. The County Council is actively pursuing a scheme to permanently reopen the site as an educational facility.


From: Gary Henshaw
Sent: 16 February 2005
Re: Bentinck Colliery's Winding Engine

Just a thought at some unearthly hour: Linby Colliery’s winding engine IS under preservation at Papplewick Pumping Station. It sounds nothing like ‘Bentinck’, but is geographically nearer than Bestwood. See website.



From: Shane Philips
Sent: 16 February 2005
Re: Bentinck Colliery's Winding Engine

From:Shane Phillips
Sent: 25 February 2005 20:29
Subject: Bentinck steam winder

Hello Fionn,

I found a bit of history about the steam winders at Bentinck; During 1977 a modernisation plan to install electric winders at a cost of £1 million began in December 1977. After 83 years service the first steam winder to be replaced was the Daglish Engine installed at No2 shaft when the pit was sunk in 1895 and as of 1977 only one other engine of this type was working in a British mine. This was the engine that made the fatal wind on June 30th 1915 , when the cages collided mid shaft resulting in the deaths of ten miners. The 1895 Grange Iron Company engine serving No3 followed in June 1978. These engines were sold for scrap and the engine houses demolished.

During June 1915 a fourth hand WARNER steam engine arrived at Bentinck as a replacement for the No1 shaft winder which was destroyed by fire on the 23rd June 1915, This engine had been built originally for a ship, but instead ended up working at a south African Gold mine, then it came back to England for the sinking of Brodsworth Main near Doncaster. The replacement electric winder from Elemore Colliery County Durham was due to be in place by August 1978, However it wasn’t until Christmas 1978 that the change over took place, the wheels on No1 headstocks  like No2 + No3 also being lowered 16 feet.

At the time industrial archaeologists and steam enthusiasts were delighted to learn that the warner engine and engine house was to be preserved on its

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Elemore Colliery George shaft
present site, with Bentincks chief engineer Frank Walton planning to maintain the engine in full working order. The engine house however was demolished late march 1991, the engine most likely being scrapped. The chimney stack at the back of old no1 winding house was demolished on the 16th august 1992. The position of the winding house can be seen on the Bentinck photos.


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