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Nicholas M Urgent information on the future of coal mining, also boilers, turbines and generators by 13th September 2005
Michael Neden - Bell Pits round Butterley
Darren Whitehead - Help Needed - Farnworth Colliery 1850s. A ghostly Frederick
John Grainger - Is it a Motty? If so whose?

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From: John Grainger
Sent: 28 April 2005
Is it a Motty? If so whose?

Hi, I wondered if you could give me any advise on something i dug out of my garden.

I have been told it is called a motty, it`s round with a hole a bit bigger than an old penny. On it the words BARBER WALKER & Co, Eastwood Collieries, Notts, number 303.
Would it be possible to find out who it belonged to ?
Thank you for any info.

Mrs M Grainger

I think you have a Miner's Token, a small metal disks, with identification numbers relating to a workman. But I do not think it would be possible to track down the individual it belonged to other than by going through old census's and finding out who lived at your house in the passed.
I am not sure when Barber Walker & Co closed, possibly 1947 when the mines were nationalised.

From: Darren Whitehead
Sent: 15 May 2005
Help Needed - Farnworth Colliery 1850s. A ghostly Frederick

I am trying to trace incidents that may have occurred at Farnworth Colliery owned by William Crompton (that was present in 1850), near Bolton.

I am unable to find anything about it on your very interesting site.

It is an odd one really and I am researching something that I know nothing about. In fact it is a little embarrassing.

I have had a lot of unusual activity at our house (you might say ghostly). My computer has typed on its own (and the possibility of a virus or hacker has been ruled out). We hear a lot of footsteps and occasionally I see a figure on the top of the stairs (but always from the corner of my eye). The word typed on my computer was " Frederick ".

I live at York Street in Farnworth, just off Frederick Street and I began to wonder if there was a historic link. Why was it called Frederick Street ? Who is Frederick ?

This caused me to do a bit of digging and a map dated 1850 reveals that Frederick Street did not exist (nor did York Street ) but there was a colliery there. (The map doesn't state the name of the colliery). I have found references to Farnworth Colliery owned by William Crompton for around that time so I presume that it was called Farnworth Colliery.

Just yesterday, my 4 year old daughter who was staying over started to talk about "Fred" out of the blue. When I asked her who Fred was she said that it was a man who was dead and that he had drowned. She didn't tell me anything else.

I believe that there were drownings within the pits and I wonder if there is some link. It all may simply be some spooky coincidence but the whole thing has got me very intrigued indeed, as you can imagine.

So I have absolutely no further information, I'm afraid.

Thank you for your help.

Darren Whitehead

  From: Michael Neden
Sent: 04 June 2005
Subject: Bell Pits round Butterley
Do you have any information on bell pitting in the Butterley area of Derbyshire? I am currently involved in the redevelopment of the Butterley Works and am trying to assess whether shallow bell pitting is a risk on the site. the seam in question is (I think) the Top Waterloo (left my map in the office), which is no more than 0.3m thick and at a depth of 8-11m. Would it have been feasible to bell pit to this depth, and if so would it have been economically viable given the limited coal available?



I have just spent an hour answering this enquiry only for my wonderful email to lose all the info'.

Therefore briefly:

1) There is a possibility of bell pits at this depth in the First Waterloo and in other shallow seams of the Waterloo (and other) deeper coal sequences.

2) There is a possibility (probability) of other deeper workings/shafts for coal and other minerals.

3) Shallow coal was a bonus to landowners and would therefore have been economically viable.

4) This enquiry should go to the Coal Authority, and if necessary can be supplemented via info' from the British Geological survey, Butterley Company records, and local history groups.

5) A full site investigation will be required if there are any questions unanswered, and test boring will be needed for stability, contamination, water level etc. assessments.

6) Surely the Local Planning Authority has specfied all of this....?



From: Nicholas M
01 September 2005
Information on the future of coal mining, also boilers, turbines and generators by 13th September

Hello! I am currently researching a topic of coal, and I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me out on the process. You see, I need some information on boilers, turbines and generators. Could you please provide us with some information within the 9th of September?

I say again, my group and I would greatly appreciate it.

Yours Sincerely,
Nicholas M, Aleks S and Nicholas L

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